Session Start: Sat Jun 07 19:45:15 2003 Session Ident: #pvpexalted [19:45] * Now talking in #pvpexalted [19:45] * Topic is 'Exalted is HAIKU~!: Sadness. "Achieving trigasm / thrice the time and effort. But / not three times as good."' [19:45] * Set by Big_Boss_MA-G-MA on Sat Jun 07 09:27:21 [19:45] * DarthTom [~ltermac@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3496593.sympatico.ca] is on IRC (01:08) [19:45] yo boss [19:46] howdy [19:46] * Kiyyoko ponders why Sorcery can summon demons, while Necromancy can't.... [19:46] because abyssals are twinks [19:46] Necromancy is about dead things. [19:46] Demons are alive. [19:46] Therefore demons are out of the jurisdiction of necromancy. Huzzah! [19:47] Ahhh. [19:47] Note also demon summoning are based on the fact that the Solars kicked the Yozis ass. Not the Abyssals, and not their malfean masters. [19:47] True, and the Demons, which are Yozis, are opposed to the Abyssals. [19:48] also, abyssals are twinkas [19:50] * Kestor shrugs. Abyssals can just drop a dot and get demon summoning artifact. It's not like they can never have them. [19:51] Twinkery has nothing to do with the in-game reasoning behind the restrictions on necromancy. [19:51] I take it you're on the speakerless comp, GH? [19:51] nah, headphones [19:51] Ah. Have file for ya. [19:52] go send [19:52] I'll send it in about 2 minutes, wait for the one I'm downloading to finish. [19:52] As good as or maybe better than the Chono theme/Crash I sent you last time. [19:54] hm [19:56] Makai Club apparently being a group of ex-shootfighters/Mixed Martial Arts in NJPW. [19:58] Inoki has a major hardon for the legit fighting scene, so he's trying to get NJPW people able to compete in PRIDE and K-1. Lost a bunch of cred when Mirco "CroCop" Propopolis knocked their champion out rather easily a year or so ago. [19:58] * Kestor is, however, unsurprised. CroCop knocks many people out, including top-level MMA people. [20:02] * Choscura (~phydeux@customer-66-213-129-114.velocitus.net) has joined #pvpexalted [20:02] 'lo everyone.... [20:03] yo [20:03] Hi Cho! [20:04] 'lo [20:04] bye everybody, i'm going to sleep [20:04] ++ [20:04] Bye Xylan. [20:05] bye [20:05] * Xylanandia (~Xyl@AToulouse-206-1-17-98.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left #pvpexalted [20:05] 'ello, Cho. [20:05] DT! [20:06] ?? [20:06] File for ya. [20:08] man, this place is dead... [20:08] where is everyone? [20:08] RPing. [20:08] I'm in france :p [20:08] aah [20:09] i'm in potatoville [20:09] :P [20:09] wait, now i'm going to sign off.... i gtg, c'ya [20:09] * Choscura (~phydeux@customer-66-213-129-114.velocitus.net) Quit (Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)) [20:12] * Kestor is now known as Fiat [20:12] * Fiat is now known as FiatVictrix [20:12] Awww.... [20:12] * Kiyyoko wonders if he can see the Kestor's char sheet! [20:13] * Kiyyoko is now known as Jydan [20:13] * FiatVictrix shrugs. No. [20:13] Oh well.... :( [20:13] * FiatVictrix has a lot of stuff unfinished on it. [20:13] Ah. [20:13] Also, I don't feel like updating it. [20:14] Nor do I feel like entirely writing out or testing the custom charms and break I'm using. [20:14] Ah. [20:14] So, what spells does he know, anyway? [20:15] Repair spell, translator spell, elemental summon, golem thnig. [20:15] Interestiong. [20:15] * Jydan would like to learn Golem, Translator, and Repair. [20:15] * FiatVictrix 's tweaking a final spell, will explain later. [20:15] Ah. [20:15] Okay. [20:23] GH: I updated Van's sheet...want it ? [20:23] (ie...spent the xp and downtime I had) [20:25] well, sent it anyways [20:25] now Van is more charming and perceptive than ever ! [20:25] heh [20:25] meh, other song was better, this song is inferior. [20:25] You didn't care for the Makai theme? How is it inferior? [20:25] style [20:26] far, far, far less style. [20:26] Admittedly, it doesn't have the intro, but the body of it is better. [20:26] nah, the body is much more repetative; indeed it is the body that I am comparing them with. [20:26] Repetetive? [20:27] More than Crash? [20:27] Hell, Crash is looping power chords, man. [20:27] Van now has per and cha 4 ! [20:27] Fear his social skills ! [20:27] It's like the metal bands primer. [20:28] why is the dcc crawling like a tijuana crack whore ? [20:28] * FiatVictrix 's got them queued up. I like Crash for the intro, but then it goes into translyvania theme and then speed guitar. [20:28] * FiatVictrix is a moron, and has kazaa going. [20:28] Try now. [20:28] try again ? [20:29] MUCH better [20:29] * FiatVictrix thinks it's mainly the speed. Crash is fast as hell. Makai club is a lot slower. [20:30] It's a more loitering entrance than the hyper-speed guitar on crash. [20:31] I'd champion Believe S Road above either, but the only version I can find as MP3 is a mix with another theme that breaks the flow all to hell. [20:31] wtf, it's 8:30 [20:31] * GoldenH isn't ready yet [20:31] Fiat: This is the version with the basso choir, right ? [20:31] It has a choir. It's not uber-basso, though. [20:31] that's fine [20:32] Of the two versions, that's the better one. [20:32] Longer, and soviet army can be trusted to do the anthem. [20:32] um...I know manx is gonna be late, and Hik has doctor's orders to keep the fuck away from us (perceptive doctor, him)...but where's the rest ? [20:33] * FiatVictrix shrugs. [20:33] Werlynn is often late. [20:33] Tabius is almost never here for the full hour pre-game show. [20:34] right [20:34] so that's all 6 [20:34] so we've gotta deal with Renig tonight, don't we ? [20:34] no [20:34] you mean they weren't his bandits ? [20:35] indeed, these are a different lesson. [20:35] that no matter how tough they are, we're tougher ? [20:35] Lesson: Do not taunt happy fun Blood. [20:35] Do not stare at happy fun Blood. [20:36] Battling happy fun Blood may cause serious injury. Realm Inc. is not liable. [20:36] * GoldenH cackles evilly [20:37] I'd worry we did something wrong, but there's WAY too many fucking banditos for something normal. [20:37] If whipping out the +3 stunts is wrong, I don't wanna be right. [20:40] * Thanos (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #pvpexalted [20:40] 'ello! [20:41] 'lo [20:41] Good evening (or morning) [20:41] * GoldenH was, in this case, not complaining about people not being here; i'm talking about my mind being off in another universe [20:41] yo [20:41] Which one, maybe we can join you there? [20:41] I don't think it wants to say. [20:41] it's being very reclusive. [20:42] * GoldenH pokes his mind with a stick and it comes back broken in half [20:42] "acht.... having a bad day? [20:42] actually it was a pretty decent day. [20:42] * GoldenH isn't sure what's going on [20:43] * Thanos thinks GH might want to stop dropping acid ;-) (j/k) [20:44] * GoldenH ate japanese food; maybe it's having the same effect [20:44] eawwwww, raw fishies? [20:44] no... crab and.. a salad. [20:45] * GoldenH isn't a sushi master [20:45] Well one way or the other my best wishes for your health, physical and mental. [20:45] i'm sure it's not that, i've felt this way for about a month every saturday. [20:46] think i'm getting burned out. [20:46] Perhaps you need a break from gaming? [20:46] thinking about it. [20:47] my table top group took a 6 weeks off ending 2 months ago..... was a good thing [20:47] gotta finish the DB game first. [20:47] we have been having a good time since [20:47] as long as you guys are still having fun... since i plan to stop during the fall semester. [20:47] That session was much fun ;-) [20:48] good, good.. [20:49] i'll try to keep sane for a few more months. [20:49] * Fiat (Fiat@dialup-209.246.187.64.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) has joined #pvpexalted [20:49] LMAO! [20:49] frigging disc. Bad disc, bad. [20:49] Truthfully taking a break might really be just what you need. I know it was what I needd. [20:49] * FiatVictrix (Fiat@dialup-67.30.192.110.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [20:49] Anyway, as I was trying to say, take a break for a while. [20:49] In Jan + Feb life for me is real hectic :-P and afterwords I am burned out regardlesss. [20:50] yeah, take a break, dude [20:50] The game should be fun for the ST, too. [20:50] bingo [20:50] WOOOT [20:51] * GoldenH dunnos; i pretty much have to end it on the 23rd [20:51] oh ? [20:51] * Retrieving #pvpexalted info... [20:51] will be going to a new college and everything. [20:51] The dorm/anti-mIRC thing? [20:51] possibly off campus. [20:51] possibly on. [20:51] I personaly liked being in the dorms when I was in college [20:52] pretty much it's my choice [20:53] I think it'll be rather stressful, either way. [20:53] hm [20:54] * Fiat shrugs. I tend to find STing a nice escape, but I do most everything off the cuff once I've scribbled out a bunch of ideas. [20:54] either way, the dorms off and on campus are IRC-ok and I can still do it at home [20:54] * GoldenH doesn't do any prep either, fiat. [20:54] Once you have done it for a while or gamed long enough you most can do that :-) [20:55] Basically, you run a good game, and I think that it'll survive a hiccup here and there or a delay. [20:55] in reality, you do more than me; I don't even make postit notes. [20:55] Even if you don't get it done exactly on the 23rd, things will be fine. [20:56] I think maybe part of the burnout is the idea you have to do anything. [20:57] When I actually tried writing plans out and such, it got to me a lot more than when I went into my chaotic scribbling and improvising I now work with. [20:57] * GoldenH shrugs. [20:57] I literally have everything done for this campaign. [20:58] There is no possibility that something will come up that I HAVEN'T planned for. [20:58] Beyond half the PCs dying? [20:58] * GoldenH has plans for that, too. [20:58] Impressive. [20:58] I tend to forget how fragile PCs are. [20:59] * GoldenH shrugs, you DBs are hardly fragile. [20:59] LoL! [20:59] * Fiat usually ends up thinking of badass adversaries because it'll be so much cooler when the PCs triumph. [20:59] PC [20:59] PC [20:59] arg [20:59] Hence we get things like Hammer and Kree's PC kill. [20:59] * GoldenH represents badassedness with stunts, not stats ^_^ [21:00] Anyhow, the point being, that I am a creature of improvision, and there is nothing left to improvise.... [21:00] PC's I find can be incredibly resilient in things where they don't need to be, but fragile as all hell when you think they are going to be tought. [21:00] tough [21:00] Didn't you improvise us into this little battle here? [21:00] * Fiat is now known as Jynaru [21:00] yea, but wasn't that so much better than if I HADN'T? [21:01] the reason I did that was because I realized that I am a creature of improvision. [21:01] * GoldenH is now known as Storyteller [21:01] * Tabius (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #pvpexalted [21:01] * Jynaru shrugs. I'm just saying that you might be wrong about no more improvisation room. [21:01] * Tabius (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) has left #pvpexalted [21:01] it's just going to be difficult to improvise through my plots :) [21:02] what a tangle web we weave when we plot to deceive ;-) [21:02] * DarthTom is now known as Vanal [21:02] BTW...... .last Sunday, both my friends named Mike were not at the Table top game...... [21:02] I have part of the mIRC script to update. [21:02] Plot is over-rated. It is an illusion fostered by the passing of many nows. [21:02] things went SO SMOOTH, we got done with 2 game sessions worth of material that the ST had prepaired. [21:02] then we'll start up again. [21:03] going to sleep [21:03] cyar [21:03] bye :) [21:03] * Nain`Away (~nickyller@ATuileries-117-1-13-197.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Il est un estuaire, un long fleuve de soupirs, où l'on mêle nos mystères et nos belles différences) [21:03] It was an awsome experience that had us talking for an hour afterwords about how things went so smooth [21:04] I take it your friend was not impressed? :) [21:05] Now I know why shadow kickboxing isn't so popular. ow. [21:05] My friends named Mike (2 of them ;-) [21:05] don't know about it yet [21:06] "Also I'm proud to say, in addition to knowing the greatest secrets of the universe, I'm quite potty-trained." [21:06] Ah.... The best line in Yu-Yu Crapushow. [21:06] Hehehehe, we have 2/4 of the HS needed to operate the 5 Metal Shrike and a damn solid lead on where it actuallty is [21:18] Simple thug, leader of a Talen or more of bandits in the middle of the realm isn't exactly a thug ;-) [21:18] at least a wing of bandits [21:18] actually, 500 is a dragon, isn't it... [21:19] * Jynaru blinks. Aiya. [21:19] This is Vanal...you know his opinion of bandits [21:19] Quick, Vanal. [21:19] Challenge him to a game of tiddlywinks. [21:19] Mmmm.... Tiddlywinks.... [21:19] * Jynaru isn't up to killing 500 bandits. [21:23] However, maybe I can get essence regen time and beat Speaker down with both hands tied behind my back and n apple in my mouth so I can't bite him. ^_~ [21:26] GAH! Abyssal! [21:26] oh, BOLLOCKS [21:27] * Jydan wonders.... [21:27] FIAT!! [21:27] Never mind. [21:27] * Jydan will make a note to ask Wednesday. [21:28] Whatzit? [21:28] * Jydan wants to know something that might distract you from your game, so he will ask later. [21:31] you [21:31] i think you've already distracted him :) [21:31] want [21:31] me [21:31] to [21:31] duel [21:31] an [21:31] abyssal [21:31] SOLO ?! [21:31] hehe [21:31] * Jynaru shrugs. He's not that bad, man. [21:31] Dude, Abyssals are walkign cuisinarts [21:31] If you can take out a Solar, you can take out an Abyssal. [21:31] That's the problem [21:32] They just have more toys and essence. [21:32] VANAL HASN'T TAKEN OUT A SOLAR [21:32] not *one* [21:32] * Jynaru shrugs. Define a champion? [21:32] "What, you? Me? Legion Commander fight such a lesser being?" [21:33] "Have somebody whip him first, then we'll talk." [21:34] <*Speaker*> "My wits against his, unless such a storied hero cannot defeat a poor man struck by ill fate." :) [21:34] heh [21:34] * Jynaru 's talking more qualifying round. [21:34] He got to see us fight. [21:34] We should get to see him fight. [21:35] If he can't agree to fair terms, what's the guarantee he won't have his banditos interfere? [21:35] * Storyteller shrugs, it's a game of chance. [21:36] Games of chance suck when you're sure your opponent is vile cheating hellspawn. [21:36] And WHY must GANGREL's theme be the one playing now? [21:37] your mp3 player secretly hates you? [21:37] That's what I'd say. :p [21:38] if this punk ha spersistent defences, Vanal is fucked [21:38] Vanal? I can offer these words. Cheat like a bitch. [21:38] heheh [21:39] Get him in the water, throw dirt in his eyes, aim for the groin. [21:39] Van does that ANYWAYS [21:39] Cheat more. [21:40] Besides, you've got SAE, right? [21:40] Lots of fodder. [21:41] * Storyteller shrugs. I doubt that trick will work more than once. [21:41] If all else fails, there's the "I'm to scary to hit" charm. [21:41] free turn of thwacking. [21:41] No, I *don't* have SAE [21:41] actually, Jyn, that charm is simple. [21:41] SAE? [21:42] pretty sure it's scene long or something. [21:42] no, the presence charm I think he's talking about. [21:42] hmmm, maybe. [21:42] Damn, one turn duration. [21:42] I have glowing coal radiance...not scene-long [21:43] I can taunt him. [21:43] Drop him two dice while fighting you. [21:43] You ARE my sniper, man [21:43] he starts winning, you shoot his ass [21:44] Try not to make me interfere in your little duel. I don't have 500 arrows. [21:45] didn't you leave your bow with dad? [21:46] * Jynaru shrugs. Probably so. [21:46] then you don't actually have your bow on you. [21:46] My bow isn't going to do jack if he's got persistant defense anyway. [21:46] * Jynaru 'll have to fire up the SSB. [21:47] * Disconnected [21:48] * Attempting to rejoin channel #pvpexalted [21:48] * Rejoined channel #pvpexalted [21:48] * Topic is 'Exalted is HAIKU~!: Sadness. "Achieving trigasm / thrice the time and effort. But / not three times as good."' [21:48] * Set by Big_Boss_MA-G-MA on Sat Jun 07 09:27:21 [21:48] * Jynaru 'll have to fire up the SSB. [21:48] * Jynaru swears. Get the bronze. [21:49] * Storyteller (GoldenH@fo39.owc.net) Quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Pants_Ninja))) [21:49] * Pants_Ninja is now known as Storyteller [21:49] what doe sluna's blessing do ? [21:49] Jyn is going to seriously have to educate you about the proper procedure for slaying anathema. [21:49] I would suggest the bronze as well.... its a for sure thing, the Blessing is based off a roll [21:50] Vanal recieves one free Angst Token, to be redeemed whenever he wants [21:50] Elanor is here!!!!! [21:50] WOOOOOT [21:51] with the bronze he is almost invulnerable, thats sick! [21:53] * kAFKaesque is now known as Heathers [21:53] DO NOT SAY THAT [21:53] * Heathers is now known as Heather [21:53] * Heather is now known as Heathers [21:53] Hi Sky! [21:53] hey jy :) [21:53] * Heathers hugs [21:53] * Jydan likes hugs! [21:54] * Jydan hugs back. [21:54] hehe [21:56] So what's up, She of Many Nicks? [21:57] just watched Heathers [21:57] Ahhh. [21:57] it amused me greatly [21:57] I see. [22:03] So, GH. Raziel among our happy Abyssal crew, or can I get back to dreading her? [22:03] where do you get Abyssal from? [22:05] there are two abyssals you've seen, no more, no less. [22:05] her eventual appearance, even. Bah. [22:05] Pretentious title? [22:05] Specifically crafting ghosts? [22:05] Black hair, arrogant demeanor, wandering around in the woods with an ersatz cape? [22:05] Ah. [22:06] ersatz cape? [22:06] you mentioned the silk thing on his back being something like a cape. [22:06] Ersatz being fake/gaudy. [22:06] ah [22:07] * Storyteller shrugs. it doesn't look like a cape; it serves the purpose of one. [22:07] Still a fake cape. [22:07] how can something be a fake cape when it doesn't even try to be a cape? [22:07] If it serves the purpose of a cape and it isn't a cape. [22:08] * Jynaru shrugs. Just roll with the ranting. [22:08] if a circlet serves the purpose of a hat is it a fake hat? [22:08] :) [22:08] A circlet doesn't serve the purpose of a hat. [22:09] A hat covers the head, and has a brim. [22:09] ah.. but we can pretend it does :) [22:09] Circlet covers neither of those important parts. [22:09] Heather Duke: I prayed and prayed every night, wondering if you would listen, but now that Heather is dead, I see that you understood. Praise the Lord! Hallellujah! [22:10] * Storyteller sees a circlet as having a different function than you, apparently. [22:10] Veronica Sawyer: This may seem like a really stupid question... [22:10] J.D.: There *are* no stupid questions. [22:10] Veronica Sawyer: You inherit 5 million dollars the same day aliens land on the earth and say they're going to blow it up in 2 days. What do you do? [22:10] J.D.: That's the stupidest question I've ever heard. [22:11] Heh. [22:13] Assuming unconsciousness/death is yielding, correct? [22:13] well, if they wanan give up prior to that, Van ain't gonna stop them [22:14] Or do we ge treated to 5 hours of waking them up "Say it!" "NO!" *thunk* and then waing them up again? [22:14] Heh [22:14] * Manxcat (manxcat@wv-mltn-ubr-c-024-159-089-167.charterwv.net) has joined #pvpexalted [22:14] helloo [22:14] 'ello. [22:15] have you read the log? [22:15] yo [22:15] * Manxcat is now known as Nika [22:15] :D [22:15] not really had time, I will right now [22:16] Just to let Vanal and the rest of you know, Tabs has 0!!!! Essence! [22:17] all you really need to know is that Vanal is just about to get into a duel with some sort of anathema [22:17] Aw. [22:17] I wanted to know about the spiffy toy. [22:17] It's pretty. [22:18] Exactly [22:19] * Thanos (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:19] * Thanos (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #pvpexalted [22:22] STEALTH HECKLER! [22:22] 8 sux with 6 dice and a WP. ^_^ [22:24] Nice! [22:25] Clearly, FRebecca rolls are love. [22:25] * Jydan wonders if the FRebecca will roll for the Kiyyoko! [22:25] I had only enough to get a legendary success ;-) [22:26] BRB [22:27] * Jynaru considers grabbing 2 dots of brawl and drowning embrace... [22:27] aw, bollocks [22:27] I told you. [22:27] Ringing anvil. [22:28] hmmmm... [22:29] Ringing Anvil is the answer. [22:29] * Retrieving #pvpexalted info... [22:29] * Waiting 8 seconds for previous request [22:29] drop a WP on it, add a virtue. [22:30] get your extra 5 or so attacks, overwhelm him. [22:30] He's got excellent defense, even at -2 dice. You can't afford to wait, and eventually the -2 will run out. [22:32] * Heathers wanders off to sleep [22:32] * Heathers is now known as kAFKaesque [22:33] mmmm.... tasty. [22:33] regain ess, induce him to spend or die. [22:34] um...what are ther essence stunt regain stats again ? [22:34] Double the norm, IIRC. [22:34] which are ? [22:34] So a +3 is 6 motes. Unless I'm on crack. [22:34] Thats what I remember was the last thing GH said [22:34] ah, fully charged... [22:34] normally, stunt gets you back motes = to the number of dice, or 2/3 dice gets you a WP. [22:35] doubled, you can get 4 motes and a WP, for example. [22:35] wp ain't a prob [22:35] * Thanos must have Tabs develope the Celestial version of DoOB ;-) [22:35] ST's not pingdead... [22:35] Something must have occured. [22:36] Ah, typing has occured. [22:36] Ah [22:36] * Vanal also has shak's maneuver ready, too [22:36] * Jynaru likes to make his stunts up as I go along. Doesn't stop me from having preset components, though. [22:37] Still waiting for "Break arm, stab someone in face with jagged ends". [22:38] sorry if I'm thick here...I'm REALLY not trying to rules-lawyer...but he aborted to dodge AND activated a combo ? [22:39] Is going to have a happy time seeing this combo..... [22:39] You can do this provided it's the right combo. [22:39] Ah [22:39] yeah [22:39] * Jynaru 's more amused there's a parry and counterattack charm in there. [22:39] the 2 essence parry and the 3 essence Counterstrike are both reflexive, based on being attacked, regardless of if you are dodging the attack as well [22:39] Most of them are one turn/scene, and thus unsuitable for comboing. [22:40] Ah. [22:40] ahhhh [22:40] thanks [22:43] dang, I can't even follow all of those dice rolls [22:43] a botch ! [22:43] * Vanal has NO CLUE how GH can keep track, himself [22:43] I'd be there with a notepad and calculator [22:43] heh [22:43] * Jynaru shrugs. It's easy. [22:43] my brain works funky :) [22:44] They come in the proper order, always follow the same set of rules. [22:44] * Jynaru even gets to say I told you so! [22:45] Nice! [22:45] Yay for "Chuck lots of attacks at them"-fu! [22:47] Ew...... 2 botch's so far for the badguy, may there be MANY MORE! [22:49] this is pure powergaming [22:50] I feel dirty [22:50] LMAO! [22:50] contrary to what folks may think, Vanal is not a powergamign char... [22:50] So is having a Scene long Parry charm and Dodge charm going at the same time with a pair of Hooked Dilkalves! [22:51] EXCEPTIONAL hooked daiklaives. [22:51] heh [22:51] Now *Ressar* [22:51] Yet any starting solar could have it :-P [22:51] HE'S a powergaming char [22:53] Vanal is just...focused [22:53] Tabs is good at getting things done ;-) [22:54] Van is good at 3 things.. [22:54] generaling [22:54] fighting [22:54] and being charming [22:56] * Jynaru gets to where he needs to be quickly and hits you hard quickly. [22:57] * Thanos (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [23:00] * Thanos (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #pvpexalted [23:00] qv [23:00] wb [23:01] This is truly a sign of the apocalypse [23:01] Van is ISoBed [23:04] * Jynaru shrugs. [23:05] THANK YOU SO MUCH GF! [23:05] GH!!!! [23:06] what for? :) [23:06] allowing the oppertunity to have Vanal be Bronzed ;-) [23:07] ;) [23:07] * Jynaru does note I have managed to avoid that doom. [23:07] I can still call Tabius a pansy and a ponce without hypocrisy! [23:08] * Jynaru does the dance of victory. [23:09] it will come Jynaru ;-) [23:09] while you were not a goal at the start of the game..... you have just become so ;-) [23:09] Van still doesn't LIKE Tabs [23:10] but he doesn't hate him [23:10] * Jynaru laughs. [23:10] I am the mobility king. [23:10] and now, cue the hymn of the soviet union [23:10] WOOOOT! [23:10] If you can somehow convince Jyn to accept another hundred pounds, I'll be impressed. [23:11] * Thanos is now known as Darth_Vador [23:11] * Darth_Vador is now known as The_Emporer [23:11] "He will come to me, I have forseen it" [23:11] * The_Emporer is now known as Thanos [23:12] * Jynaru LAUGHS! [23:12] Do I get lightsaber arrows? ^_^ [23:13] If thats what it takes ;-) [23:14] does anyone have a version of the core rules in pdf? [23:14] of what RPG? [23:15] * Kraken points at the name of the room [23:15] Exaltamaed. [23:15] * Storyteller does [23:15] Big bastard of a file. [23:16] I guessed it might be...would you be willing to send it to me? [23:16] is nika at the battle sight? [23:16] er site [23:17] yea, your floating around overhead [23:17] honestly i'm not sure what Tala would do, probably just kill them. [23:17] Not the fucking greenie. [23:17] Not on my damn watch. [23:18] one thing I never thought I'd see: anyone "shooing" an anathema [23:19] She had to work with them before on the island, sort of. She knows they are useful, she knows we are over matched IMHO [23:19] and I can't believe that she wouldn't let them have a chance to redeem themselves. [23:19] It's TALA [23:19] she bitch-smacked poor old man twilight [23:19] well I hope that should would let them [23:20] probably redeem themselves in deat [23:20] yeah, but that was early on [23:20] I felt sorry for the poor guy [23:20] * Jynaru shrugs. [23:20] Hence the probable suicide run. [23:20] At least you didn;t have to be there to watch him die :-P [23:20] point [23:20] did give Tei a chance to get pissed though [23:21] If Bloom kills them, they died in service of the realm, at least. [23:21] waitaminute... [23:22] that would mena splat-guy is the guy who poisoned shak ? [23:22] the guy whom Van tortured ? [23:22] suddenly...I don't feel a twinge of sympathy *g* [23:23] they seem pretty decent sorts of infernals, though [23:23] well...minus the greusome killings [23:23] no, they're dawn-tainted, not night-tainted. [23:24] ...I don't recall van killing any infernals with a daiklaive [23:24] meh [23:24] must'v ehappened during downtime [23:24] * Storyteller shrugs. you were probably just hacking in the area. [23:30] * Yuri (trilluser@1Cust71.tnt2.evansville.in.da.uu.net) has joined #pvpexalted [23:30] hi all [23:30] Hi Ken! [23:30] hey ken [23:31] what'su p? [23:31] ST'in yo [23:32] 'ello, Ken. [23:32] hey Fiat [23:33] * Storyteller is just playing along [23:36] Heya ST, can an individual be put into ECE and then a group of ECE'd things be put in another ECE? [23:36] So, were these the women you were gonna throw at me, GH? [23:37] * Jynaru recalls a talk about a group of women and me worrying they were gonna be like sailor scouts or something. [23:37] indvidual. [23:37] No, silly fiat... [23:37] . [23:37] .... [23:37] :D [23:37] ??? [23:38] }:) [23:38] Individual....? [23:38] indvidual [23:38] one at a time [23:39] you can't really ECE groups of anything. [23:39] You can't ECE a barrel of Fruit? [23:40] * Storyteller would let the barrel of fruit fine, but not a bunch of fruit lying on a table [23:41] OK [23:41] SO if I bound them all into a big barrel, I could then ECE the Barrel around them? [23:41] yea [23:42] Hrmmmm..... OK< could Tabs bind them while they were ECE'd into a barrel and then ECE the Barrel around them? [23:42] if it's a tight enough fit. [23:43] Wouldn't that sort of shard thing take Solar circle? [23:44] * Jynaru knows it's partly possible, due to the infernal trying a shard-freeing trick on me. [23:46] Hehehehee [23:46] Perhaps putting them on the doorstep to Ushan about the time the UCS goes out for a pee would free them of the taint ;-) [23:47] yea, but then you'd have Solar Anathema running around. Not much of a step up. [23:48] Almost anything's better than infernal. [23:49] * Jynaru is not so impressive of a liar. [23:49] But damned if I'm going to admit I'm lugging around a shard. [23:52] heh [23:52] 9 dice and I got 1 whole stupid success [23:52] :-P [23:56] Luckily, you is plural. [23:58] how much longer you guys good for>?' [23:58] * Jynaru 's good for whenever, pretty much. [23:58] Got any idea on the time-frame? [23:58] * Yuri (trilluser@1Cust71.tnt2.evansville.in.da.uu.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [23:59] * Storyteller 's likely to send you to your manse right now [23:59] Hours. [23:59] GOOOD [23:59] Lets go ;-) [23:59] don't want to have to role play through 5 days of ECEing ;-P [23:59] heh [23:59] * Jynaru shall be prepared to rant and rave about things. [00:00] bitch lady goes first by the way ;-) [00:00] When all 4 of them are done, they get put into a box that was for cargo, and Tabs's ECE's that ;-) [00:00] * Jynaru says we use them for cover and drop them in the frigging ocean. [00:01] He gives the keys to the individual ECE's to Tala and keeps the box ECE himself.... [00:01] * Jydan ponders a Solar Charm Equivilent to With One Mind.... [00:01] two missle keys my friends, two missle keys ;-) [00:01] not likely; that's the DB expertise [00:01] Hehehe, yeah its called Unity of the Closed Fist ;-) [00:02] The only reason we survived the second visit to the Invisible Manse was because of that AWSOME SPELL [00:03] Course even kicking that up we ran like scared little red head girls when the images of the two deathlords that came from that place showed up as it sank into the ground. [00:03] this is Fiat's baby so i'm going to have him do much of the descriptioning [00:04] * Jynaru went slightly overboard with the design and the insane amount of variety of glass and mirroring. [00:05] Well Basicly Vanal, in a Spirit Sanctuary Shak can basicly manifest in the real world [00:05] what is the manse actually? [00:05] Its like when we had to fight Coils in her own place in the dark underwater place [00:05] Manse happens to be air aspect. [00:06] She was physical [00:06] I...seee. [00:06] And this place is...where ? [00:06] On the way down the waterfall...... which basicly means you have to fly to get there. [00:08] Ah [00:08] if of course you are willing to make the proper sacrifices to the spirits so that they'll leave you alone in their.. well.. favorite home. and they are rather powerful spirits already, to have a sanctum... [00:08] what kind ? [00:08] sacrifices, I mean [00:08] Tabs will make the necessary sacrifices, as long as they aren't human ;-) [00:09] * Storyteller will leave the inventiveness on what to give or do for powerful spirits that recieve constant worship, praise, and offerings to you both [00:09] Hmmm.... Perhaps the Solar version of With One Mind should be Socialize.... [00:11] errr... [00:11] Storyteller (100) 9, 7, 4, 8, 3, 8, 5, 7, 6, 5, 10, 4, 2, 4, 5, 5, 8, 9, 5, 2, 3, 4, 4, 1, 9, 6, 9, 4, 8, 7, 10, 5, 9, 10, 10, 7, 2, 8, 10, 4, 3, 2, 3, 7, 10, 10, 4, 6, 10, 10, 1, 10, 7, 1, 7, 2, 10, 8, 9, 10, 5, 5, 2, 5, 3, 9, 7, 7, 10, 1, 3, 6, 3, 8, 6, 10, 1, 6, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 10, 5, 9, 9, 3, 9, 5, 6, 10, 9, 8, 7, 8, 1, 9, 10, 5, Successes : 65 [00:11] !ex 100 [00:11] Hmmm... [00:11] Storyteller (100) 6, 2, 2, 1, 10, 1, 5, 4, 1, 9, 4, 7, 1, 8, 6, 3, 6, 5, 1, 9, 3, 8, 5, 1, 6, 9, 8, 2, 3, 10, 3, 1, 3, 9, 3, 2, 7, 7, 8, 8, 1, 8, 1, 6, 3, 3, 1, 10, 1, 4, 10, 3, 10, 9, 7, 2, 8, 2, 1, 2, 3, 3, 7, 5, 9, 8, 8, 2, 8, 2, 8, 3, 1, 9, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 9, 10, 4, 6, 9, 2, 9, 8, 8, 4, 5, 5, 9, 3, 2, 10, 3, 4, 1, 7, 7, Successes : 45 [00:11] !exa 100 [00:11] an authentic infernal head on a pike ? [00:11] heh [00:11] We've got one to spare, you know [00:11] the spirits are insulted and tell you to never come back :( [00:11] Hehehehe [00:11] Hrmms things that something they can [00:12] 't normaly get [00:12] 50 dice or less. example: !ex 5 [00:12] 50 dice or less. example: !ex 5 [00:12] well dang it I wan't done yet ;-) [00:13] ^_^ [00:13] was discussing with Vanal so we could come up with good ideas that the spirits would like :-O [00:13] ok ;) [00:13] they're water spirits ? [00:14] waterfall spirits. [00:15] possibly some air elementals and water elementals and earth elementals [00:15] why am I seeind aquamarine jewels being part of this ? [00:15] hmmm.. not too bad. [00:15] Statuettes or uncut? [00:15] both [00:16] it's generally a bad idea to give a spirit a chest of treasure or any gift without some kind of central theme. [00:16] Tabs could craft some of the Stalagties or mites into physical immitations of the spirits. [00:16] Then use the jewels as eyes or parts of the statue or image. [00:17] that's good [00:18] the spirits are not going to be very open to letting you shape their sanctum; they already have it just the way they like it. [00:18] Actually some mason work for a mural of all the spirits in their splenter might be nice? [00:18] but your appealing to their vanity is a good idea. [00:18] oka,y how about statuettes carved from jewels for each spirit [00:18] Ah, make things out of wood ;-) [00:18] say...oal for the air, aquamarine for the water, and diamond for the earth ? [00:18] *opal [00:20] "Heheh, with Ritual of Elemental Empowerment, Water, the jems could be shaped any which way the spirits like ;-) [00:20] sounds good [00:20] um...add to the fact one of the high and might DBs humbly asking to borrow their sanctum for a few hours ? [00:21] sure, if you can word the request right [00:21] hrmmmm [00:21] is there a particular kind fo sacrifice the ylike ? Not humans [00:22] err..other than humans, rather [00:23] Fish, deer, veggies, trees, rock, blood. [00:23] Shit, Van'd give them soem of his blood if it would help [00:24] * Storyteller shrugs. they've had literally everything, being at the center of the realm. they are fickle and just as dependant on the presentation and meaning as the content, both of which must, of course, be surpurb. Trying to narrow it down to including any one thing is a fallacy; if it sounds neat, it will help; i suppose you could say they are slaves to fashion of their own, but this fashion is also [00:24] * Storyteller modled over favored gifts; it would take a mighty gift indeed to get them to abandon their sanctum even for a short [00:24] * /me: insufficient parameters (line 120, script.ini) [00:24] * Storyteller shrugs. they've had literally everything, being at the center of the realm. they are fickle and just as dependant on the presentation and meaning as the content, both of which must, of course, be surpurb. Trying to narrow it down to including any one thing is a fallacy; if it sounds neat, it will help; i suppose you could say they are slaves to fashion of their own, but this fashion is also modled over favored gifts; it would take a mighty gift indeed to get them to abandon their sanctum even for a short while. [00:26] Tabius will happly put all his occult knowledge and social perception into the project to make it come out just right. [00:26] Van only has the social perception, but he'll giv eit his best shot [00:26] mainly by being uber-humble to these people...simple clothes, no armor, only weapon behind shakel herself... [00:27] I think it would take a couple of days of research to find out who the spirits are, what they would probably like [00:27] and how to present it and where. [00:27] Yah [00:27] Hmmm... [00:27] Besides getting what they like and making it [00:27] of course [00:28] But in essence we got about 2 weeks we can work it off. [00:28] * Jynaru has a house with a vault full of cthonian artifacts. ^_^ [00:28] Hmmm.. [00:28] Yeah ! [00:28] Maybe.... [00:28] Maybe one's of Jyn's artifacts might interest them [00:28] indeed... anything that you guys would be particularly vulnerable, go ahead.. just improvise something shiney. [00:31] * Yuri (trilluser@1Cust185.tnt1.evansville.in.da.uu.net) has joined #pvpexalted [00:31] Hi Kenny! [00:31] Hmm...maybe an artifact that makes waterfalls flow UPWARDS ? [00:32] re [00:32] Sigh. [00:32] You know, putting a vault of nigh-cthonian artifacts in your basement isn't great. [00:32] Dude, it's 1:30...I'm not mr. creative after a 10-hour shift and 4 hours sleep [00:33] * Jynaru laughs. [00:33] * Jynaru was more sighing at the illusion bit. [00:33] that's neat. [00:33] * Storyteller doesn't say you have to do it tonight. take your time. [00:35] I will [00:35] Mmmm.... Cantor.... That's a good name for a Solar.... [00:44] * Jynaru 's ranting and raving is done. [00:44] And there was much rejoicing. ^_^ [00:50] * Storyteller 's going to hit Jynaru with the nerf bat, so if you people don't want to watch, that's fine :) [00:50] tea will be served in the garden. [00:50] for those who wish to stick around and chat. [00:50] hehehee [00:51] * Vanal is probably gonna get some sleep, actually [00:51] * Jynaru whimpers. [00:51] Anyway, get some sleep. [00:51] is unfortunately going to have to do the same [00:51] It's best my nerfing is semi-private. ^_^ [00:51] np [00:51] 'night all [00:52] well in a little bit. [00:52] * Storyteller shrugs, at least watch the doom start ;) [00:53] Don't know what I did that took it out of me today, perhaps driving around in 105 degree heat for hours., [00:53] heh, suxx0r [00:53] * Yuri (trilluser@1Cust185.tnt1.evansville.in.da.uu.net) Quit (Quit: ) [00:54] isn't that bad here :) [00:54] :-P [00:55] * Jynaru shudders. [00:55] triple digit degree = bad. [00:57] so far this is a mild summer.....I am waiting for the 100 teens :-P [00:57] * Vanal ios definetly going to bed now [00:57] allwight [00:57] g'night. [00:57] 'night [00:57] * Vanal (~ltermac@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3496593.sympatico.ca) Quit (Quit: "I'm pissed so you don't have to be. I'm your Anger Shaman."- Henry Rollins) [00:57] * Jynaru 's doom escapes one viewer! Whee! [00:58] * Bog_Mod (Bog@h24-80-214-33.gv.shawcable.net) has joined #pvpexalted [00:58] nyarr [00:58] 'ello, Bog. [00:58] Yo [00:59] * Bog_Mod keeps playing the Brunnen G war song. [01:00] brb, supper! [01:01] damn, not supper [01:02] So how is everyone? [01:02] Working on a charm. [01:02] With One Mind for Solars. [01:02] Being doominated. [01:03] Halfway pondering Kojiroh stuff, due to my current plalist. [01:03] Nifty [01:03] will see you later thanosy [01:03] I am off to put a dent in my pillow. [01:03] What is this charm Jydan? [01:03] * Thanos (~web-Guest@ip68-108-128-145.lv.lv.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:03] g'night! [01:04] The D-B charm With One Mind. I want a Solar version of it. [01:04] * Storyteller would never allow it [01:04] What does the charm do? [01:04] Basically, telepathic communication. [01:04] * Bog_Mod left his book at work. [01:04] it's one of the DB's traidmark group-combat charms [01:04] It doesn't do the EXACT same thing as With One Mind, GH. [01:04] It's not for combat, really. [01:05] well if you just want telepathic communication that'sf ine. [01:05] But anyone trying to emulate group-charms that provide any material benefit will get punked by me [01:05] Yeah, charms to help the group as a whole is a DB thing in my eyes. [01:05] But just communication would be fine. [01:10] * Bog_Mod made up two new spells and an artifact while at work. [01:10] And read a book. [01:10] Wow. That's good. [01:10] ARGH! [01:10] Anti-undead spell of doom! [01:11] Ooooo. [01:11] DAMMIT, SANYET! [01:11] * Jynaru should have stuck HIM in the vault. [01:11] anti undead spell of doom? [01:11] Yes [01:11] Makes all ghosts in range make a WP roll at diff three or enter instant Lethe [01:11] Whoa. [01:11] Cool. [01:11] corpses in the area of effect cant be used to make ghosts. [01:12] Things like skeletons and zombies are unaffected [01:12] same with Deathlords [01:12] Ahhh. [01:12] circle? [01:12] Solar [01:12] * Kraken nods [01:12] Has a range in essence in miles [01:12] So starts at a 5 mile range. [01:12] wow! [01:13] * Bog_Mod also made a natural disaster spell. [01:13] Also solar level. Takes an hour long ritual. [01:14] Then a volcano, or tsunamie or earthquake or tornado or etc hits the target [01:14] Anything like summoning that storm dragon thing? [01:14] Not really. [01:14] You basically do a ritual to the maidens, moon, sun and dragons. Then natural disaster. [01:15] * Bog_Mod made a level 4 daiklaive. [01:15] It was pretty...and hade nice doomy powers. [01:16] Mmm....> Doomy. [01:16] All in all a nice productive day at work. [01:16] pretty is good. [01:16] I love that job. [01:17] now its supper. [01:17] brb [01:17] it's the 2 am mark, and I think i'm going to bed. [01:18] allright... cya next week. [01:18] gg [01:18] g'night! [01:18] I plan to brifly write up the manse in case anyobne is wondering, and any xp this week? [01:19] Manse writeups are fun. [01:19] 5 xp.. [01:19] i'm giving jynaru +2 xp for his displaying of the manse [01:20] I would have set up more nifty, but others had things to do and it was late. [01:20] * Nika (manxcat@wv-mltn-ubr-c-024-159-089-167.charterwv.net) Quit (Quit: ) [01:20] Sadly, I could spend multiple sessions ranting. [01:21] indeed... next week will be enough ranting. [01:40] Do ya ever have the feeling that you're being watched? [01:41] Sometimes. It usually tends to be something/someone watching me. [01:44] * Bog_Mod is watching. [01:45] I watch all! [01:46] * Bog_Mod had been considering a way to contain exalts without Soulsteel. Would green jade be at all useful? [01:47] Since Green jade also is used for handling essence [01:48] Really? If I made a green jade pendant, could I make an essence-containing device for Kiyyo? [01:48] Or perhaps some spell...a spell to keep an exalt from regaining essence from breath while in a certain area? [01:48] Interesting... [01:49] in ToT there are orichalcum manacles that drain essence... [01:49] * Bog_Mod ponders. A room with a mighty rune carved in the floor. While in the room exalts can not regain essence by breathing like they normally do. [01:50] Making the trick to reduce them to low essence. [01:50] Just thoughts I have been having for Darus to consider/do at some point. [01:50] you'd probably do that in the fight to subdue them... [01:50] Probably. [01:50] * L_Jynaru (Fiat@dialup-67.30.192.72.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) has joined #pvpexalted [01:50] wb [01:50] * Bog_Mod always liked magic runes. [01:51] wb [01:51] Anyone here have savage seas on PDF? [01:51] no [01:51] got the bok [01:52] * Jydan (Jydan@sdn-ap-034dcwashP0506.dialsprint.net) Quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Jyd))) [01:52] * Jynaru (Fiat@dialup-209.246.187.64.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [01:52] * Jydan (Jydan@sdn-ap-003dcwashP0342.dialsprint.net) has joined #pvpexalted [01:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Jydan [01:52] what page is the ori manacles on? [01:53] ummm not sure gimme a sex [01:53] sec* [01:53] ori manacles in Savage seas? [01:53] in ToT, pg 60 [01:53] Time of Tumult [01:54] wb Jy [01:54] Thanks, sorry, I usually get disc'd around this time of night. [01:54] wb [01:55] Holly crap! [01:55] ? [01:55] You need to have an effective str+ath of 40 to try to break them. [01:55] Whoa. [01:55] yeah [01:55] * L_Jynaru sighs. [01:55] I really need to crack some Sidereal skulls. [01:56] How does anyone get that high? [01:56] Can it be done? [01:56] * L_Jynaru shrugs. Doubling artifacts and charms. [01:56] An Eclipse can easily do it. [01:56] How? [01:56] a solar can do it actually [01:56] look at the ath adders and strength adders. [01:57] Add on the same from Lunar and DB. [01:57] 40 uisn't so bad, i'd expect autosux. [01:57] A solar can never add more then their attribue+ability though... [01:57] the entire 'Increasing strength exercise' tree lets you do it if you are ess str and ath 5, and have quite a few motes free and have wp 8 or higher [01:58] * Bog_Mod would need to check his book I think.. [01:58] a sorcerer could easily get +20 for a whole scene just from one spell. [01:58] tho you can cast a spell if you're in sorcerous manacles... [01:58] cant! [01:59] Yeah, you can't. [01:59] * Bog_Mod will check his books tomorrow... [02:00] GH, is it possibly to LOWER conviction? [02:00] Course, if you slip them on someone while they are unconscious. [02:00] heh, maybe. [02:01] but, base pool of 10 + 5 from ISE, + 10 from thunders might, + 8 from ten ox .. it costs you 43 essence tho [02:01] sorry +16 from ten ox [02:01] The Sidereal bit is managing to get close to it. [02:01] You can combine thunders and ten ox? [02:02] I think so... [02:02] * Bog_Mod should never have left his books.... [02:02] heh [02:03] or if you have wp 10, you can go for ISE + 20 points from Ten ox + burn a wp point to roll wp to boost it for one roll [02:06] Hmmm... [02:06] Incantation of the Invincable Army is pretty useless for eclipses. [02:07] yeah [02:08] Since they can only use it during an eclipse. When are the eclipses? Calabrition? [02:08] Eclipses and calibration, yes. [02:09] And how many wars are fought on that day? [02:09] days [02:09] in calibration, almost none [02:09] How many solar circle spellcasting sorcerers fought in wars on that day? [02:10] I would hazard a guess at not very many at all ever in the whole history of the first age [02:12] Indeed [02:13] Rotten bastard Sids. [02:13] * L_Jynaru goes through hell, and all they can offer is "you gotta have faith.". [02:14] woooT! It's raining! [02:14] The baby jesus is crying at what you're doing to me. [02:15] I never said I was a good christian [02:16] Who here thinks a solar could take 25 blooded? [02:16] ... [02:16] You're gonna have to be a lot more specific. [02:16] Given say...400 xp to play with? [02:16] i assume by blooded, you mean god-blooded [02:16] and I mean DBs [02:16] * L_Jynaru shrugs. [02:16] staying away from sorcery [02:16] then no [02:17] No sorcery? [02:17] yeah [02:17] XP is irrelevant. [02:17] * L_Jynaru considers. [02:17] How so? [02:17] What's the power level on the DBs? [02:17] 10,000 XP, and 25 starting DBs must still win. [02:17] * Bog_Mod goes back to ignoring GH who is still on crack. [02:17] Say 200 or so each [02:18] Situation is they have to fight. No running away then coming back later. [02:18] Time to put up scene long charms. [02:18] .... [02:19] Solar is utterly fucked. [02:19] seriously. [02:19] How would you do it Fiat? [02:19] * Bog_Mod is curious [02:19] * Storyteller is now known as GoldenH [02:19] Sheer amount of attacks. [02:19] Immaculate arts. [02:19] WELL, lets see, outside of simply throwing rocks? [02:19] The fact that even celestial bliss eventually runs out. [02:20] With 200 XP to play with, I can have... [02:20] I mean, with 400 xp -10 suxx to all attack and a 29 dice pool to everything easy. [02:20] * GoldenH shrugs. [02:20] All that gets canceled out by one DB with an area attack weapon. [02:20] Doesn't matter. [02:20] Last I checked DBs dont' have perfect attacks. [02:20] There's 25 of them. [02:21] They don't NEED perfect attacks. [02:21] plus they definately got group-charms [02:21] sooner or later, they will wear the solar down. [02:21] He's going to take a lot with him. [02:21] But at most they have what, 25 dice for an attack? [02:21] I mean, i'm assuming you mean that's x-XP in COMBAT charms, not a normal PC. [02:21] yeah [02:21] But the dice inherently favor the DBs in the end. [02:21] it doesn't matter how many dice you have if you have an area attack. [02:21] What area attack is there? [02:22] you simply do not defend against area attack. [02:22] Dragon vortex. [02:22] Elemental burst. [02:22] Well, you can FLB those [02:22] Water top charm. [02:22] the ONLY thing that defends against Dragon Vortex is HGD [02:23] ok, so BDM, HGD, and starmetal armor. [02:23] * L_Jynaru thinks, thinks that the fire immaculate art has an area attack charm. [02:23] I think that several of them do. [02:23] 25 properly twinked DBs will annihilate a single Solar. [02:24] * Bog_Mod once again wishes he had his books to read these charms.. [02:24] It's like giving a three year old a gun and throwing him into a pit of rabid wolverines. [02:25] Hell, all it takes is ONE lucky hold, and you're dead. [02:25] Rather than just summoning a temporary damaging burst of elemental energy, this Charm creates a deadly maelstrom of the character's elemental aspect. Whether it is a sudden rain of fire, a roiling whirlwind of air or a grinding cloud of stone and earth, all within the area of effect suffer the character's wrath. [02:25] Anyone in the area of the Dragon Vortex Attack, other than the character who summoned it, takes lethal damage equal to the character's Essence every turn, as she is battered by flying shards of stone, sliced by razor-thin ice crystals, burned by swirling gouts of flame, and so on. This [02:25] damage cannot be dodged or parried. The Dragon-Blooded who created it is exempt from these effects, and may act normally in all respects. The Dragon Vortex extends 10 feet from the character per point of his permanent Essence. It is stationary once invoked, and not even the character can voluntarily terminate it before its duration expires, although killing the character will end it. [02:25] What wins when one charm says you can parry/dodge everything and another says you can't parry it? [02:26] if it explicitly states it cannot be dodged or parried, it can only be dodged or parried by a charm that can explicitly dodge or parry an attack that cannot be dodged or parried. [02:27] * Bog_Mod nods. [02:27] so, HGD works, seven shadow evasion or whatever does not. [02:27] GH, I'm about to get to sleep. [02:27] But first, I must commend you. [02:27] i'll cya around fiat [02:27] thanks :) [02:27] I would have to make up words to describe what a vile bastard you are. [02:27] And even then, it would fall short. [02:28] * Bog_Mod just ponders... [02:28] that's the best compliment i've ever recieved. [02:28] thank you. [02:28] * L_Jynaru bows. [02:28] Of course, I am a firm believer that there is a heirarchy of power and solars are on the top of it. [02:28] * GoldenH will deal with BM [02:28] Solars are good. [02:28] * GoldenH slaps BM! [02:28] * Bog_Mod is slaped. [02:28] helloooooo? [02:28] * Bog_Mod punches GH. [02:28] However, the top does not mean that adding up a bunch of lower hierarchies doesn't mean more. [02:28] Now, g'night. [02:29] True [02:29] * L_Jynaru (Fiat@dialup-67.30.192.72.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: My fist is the Divine Breath! Blossom, o fallen seed, and draw upon they hidden powers! Grant unto the the power of the glorious Mother of Destruction!) [02:29] solar purge? [02:29] Numbers. [02:29] Yeah, I know [02:30] But I would expect that some of those first age solars could break 25 Blooded out of hand. [02:30] Yeah. [02:30] * Bog_Mod is just curious about where that level of power is. [02:31] I mean in one of the fictions one eclipse is destroying first age ships in single shots. [02:31] * GoldenH wouldn't; or rather, they are the kind with a bazillion cheaty artifacts; the guy who rides the five metal shrike in a noble warstrider while under the effects of all the scenelong charms and encased in a mobile version of eternal crystalline enchantment. [02:33] you would not BELIEVE the kind of shit I have to pull to make solars dangerous to even _9_ DBs. I literally went through the book, and chose all the best charms, and put them in all the possible combos, and it STILL ISN'T ENOUGH. [02:33] Perhaps, but you favor the DBs in your opinions then I do. [02:33] more then I do. [02:34] * GoldenH shrugs. I have experience making antagonists for large numbers of DBs. And simple, un-artifacted solars simply don't cut it. [02:34] And if you artifact the SOLARS, you have to artifact the DBs even more! [02:34] In the end, Exalts suffer from the arms race just like everyone else. [02:35] Starmetal armor to remove ping damage. Then the -10 suxx, 29 deffense pool would likely work. [02:35] nah...charms win out. [02:35] Which is a kind of arms race [02:36] A charm for resistance could easily be done that mimics the effects of starmetal. [02:36] until of course, you start dealing with Mr DB with the bypass-defense pool charm and something like, oh, 31 dice to attack. [02:37] How can you get 31 dice? [02:37] bypass defence pool? [02:37] I think it's a level 2 artifact, maybe level 1, in ToT. [02:37] actually, it should be more like 40 dice but i'm being nice to the solar [02:38] * Bog_Mod ponders. Thats 10 for skill, 3 for specialty, another 8 from charms. 21. How do you get more? [02:38] 10 more at that? [02:38] How many artifacts did you give him? [02:38] just one. [02:38] ? [02:38] What one? [02:38] look in ToT, there's this awsome dagger that lets you add dice. [02:38] Page? [02:39] * GoldenH shrugs. I dunno [02:39] 23 [02:39] what level is it? [02:39] 2 [02:40] * GoldenH thinks a level 3 artifact can do better. say infinity that. [02:40] you can only get 5 dice off it, for 10 motes [02:40] ah. [02:40] what is the defence by pass charm btw? [02:41] So without making new things. You are at 27 dice. [02:41] hey, i'm sure the DBs can find one. [02:41] wait, what's the base acc bonus on that weapon. [02:41] +1 [02:41] +1 [02:41] so +6 total [02:41] Putting you at 27 dice [02:42] allright, now grab some nice, lowish-level artifact that raises your dex/thrown above 5 [02:42] So lets say you have 31 attack [02:43] You still lose 10 suxx and have to beat 26 dice [02:43] * GoldenH is assuming that at least some of that 10 sux is due to cover. [02:43] shields/bracers/etc [02:43] Two charms. [02:44] -13 with Thunder shield [02:44] * GoldenH shrugs, just as well; shields and such don't apply when you make a back-attack [02:44] TAoG subtracts dice not sux I think [02:45] It adds to the diff to be hit [02:45] Easy to counter being attacked from behind. [02:45] no, it takes dice off [02:46] They changed it? [02:47] curse my not having my books. [02:47] its says it takes dice in my rulebook... [02:47] Then -8 from Snake/Ebon form and a shield [02:48] and you lose dice. [02:48] So your at 26 dice or so, lose 8 suxx and have to beat at least 26 dice of defense. [02:48] you can only have one form activte at a time. [02:48] and snake form also removes dice. [02:48] The / meant either one [02:48] Hmm...interesting... [02:48] shrug go for ebon shadow then [02:48] and only 3 dice at that. [02:49] Essence I thought [02:49] don't believe so. [02:49] it is essence [02:50] ok, fine. [02:50] close my eyes, now it's only -2 [02:50] Ebon shadow works wether eyes open or not [02:50] then just go for ebon shadow, which I think is actually meaning that you aren't using armor. [02:51] Is a shield armor? [02:51] * Bog_Mod wasn't sure about that rule. [02:51] no [02:51] Then since it isn't armor you can use it. [02:51] it might be a special case for Ebon, then, and regardless, it doesn't help if you get backattacked, and you will get backattacked by roughly 5 dragon bloods/ turn [02:52] which you cannot defend against without charms at all. [02:52] We are assuming charms though. [02:52] regardless, you HAVE to use charms to defend against those attacks. [02:52] Or have charms already up. [02:53] persistant scenelongs won't be enough. [02:53] I think they would. [02:53] fiat's clinch trick will help if you're not wearing armor. [02:53] also, if you're not wearing armor you are *extremely* suspectable to dragon vortex attack. [02:53] If you hit. [02:54] you will be hit. probability is my friend. [02:54] * Bog_Mod laughs. Whatever, this discussion is moot anyways. [02:55] have you ever actually rolled out that many dice? :) [02:55] I don't have my books, and we are both too stubborn to ever admit who is right or even think the other is right. [02:55] yers [02:55] yes [02:55] * GoldenH has too. it only takes 500 rolls to botch critically 3 times. [02:56] heh [02:56] that means each of them only has to make 20 attacks :) [02:56] Anways, see my point about discussion being moot. [02:56] indeed... [02:56] For the chance it would happen. [02:56] * Bog_Mod likes his long odds. [02:56] it would happen. [02:56] Nah [02:57] it would take less rolls than that, sicne you're actually rolling two lots of about 15, not one pool of abou 30... [02:59] the nasty dice rolling is when you get two invincible sword princess' facing off [02:59] * GoldenH was atcually talking about rolls of 15; i did it as an experiment regarding that wonderfully fun charm, arrow storm technique [02:59] heh [03:00] I have a C program that does arrow storms.. [03:00] Mmm.... Ci... [03:00] I do it in mIRC ^_^ C would definately be better. [03:00] I used C cos I dont know mIRC yet [03:01] mIRC is a little confusing. [03:01] I should use C++ just because it's really a lot faster. [03:01] I also have a C++ version that has a windows interface, and text box entry :) [03:01] cool [03:01] so how many people do they generally get to kill with arrow storm tech with 15 dice. [03:02] its a scary somewhere between wing and draogn normally [03:02] depending on armour and stuff, obviously [03:02] yea, 250-500 rolls 'till botch [03:03] have seen it do 8000...have seen them botch on 3 [03:03] heh [03:03] tell me, does it roll for extras' abort to parry? [03:03] * Bog_Mod is not pleased with his his copy of castebook dawn [03:03] the number of 1's and 2's is actually quite vast [03:03] atm no it doesnt [03:04] it has shields [03:04] should implement it. [03:04] It vastly lowers the effectiveness of the charm. [03:04] which is better for the solar actually... [03:04] yeah but also reduces the odds of you botching the last roll :) [03:05] hmm? [03:05] since you can roll successes but miss [03:05] * GoldenH shrugs. botches are neat [03:05] Kraken, do you have Caste book dawn? [03:05] if the you botch, you know, you just might hit somebody else and the charm will continue. [03:05] no, what you need to end AST is a simple failure. [03:06] yeah [03:06] difficulty to hit and parryes would help that [03:06] since the odds of you failing a 15 dice pool without botching is slim [03:06] * GoldenH reccomends you actually set it up for random/sequential dice rolling; remember that the officers have higher dice pools than mooks [03:07] and seriously, when he's mowing down mooks, he doesn't have TIME to avoid the officers ;) [03:07] * Kraken shrugs. it was little thing I knocked together to deal with invading undead hordes... [03:08] ah, undead hordes.. no sir, no nemessaries hiding there... [03:08] heh