Session Start: Sat Jan 18 17:59:14 2003 Session Ident: #pvpexalted [17:59] * Now talking in #pvpexalted [17:59] * Topic is 'Exalted: Angel_Jydan has been burninated' [17:59] * Set by Trogdooooor on Sat Jan 18 00:13:24 [18:36] * GoldenH changes topic to 'Exalted: A curse that dogs my heels like Fighter after Black Mage, or Black Mage after White Mage, or White Mage after...whatever it is that virginal little hammer fetishists really want.' [18:38] * Maris (~bjorndaba@adsl-63-202-88-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #pvpexalted [18:43] 'lo [18:48] hey maris [18:49] hey [18:49] * Walknuki (notmyemail@pcp485609pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net) has joined #pvpexalted [18:49] 'lo [18:49] I'm guessing I'm goiung to have little to no role in tonight's event's right/ [18:49] hey walknuki [18:49] ? even [18:49] "I could play Everquest on a 50 inch screen? WE HAVE TO BUY THIS!" [18:49] Hey hey. [18:51] eh [18:52] I don't expect the thing to be much big deal [18:52] * Maris nods [18:52] * Maris is just trying to see how he should be planning things. [18:52] in other words, i'll have you show up when vanal does, say you saw the dragon flying around or something and followed it. [18:53] * GoldenH could try another way, but i really don't trust them to work into my hands on such a small scale. [18:53] alright [18:55] Hey, GH, question. [18:55] yea [18:55] A guy is surrounded by 5 immaculate monks. The monks want to put him in a clinch, feeling that's the best way to take him down. How would you handle that? [18:56] Well you cut off his head and it's reall easy to put him in a clinch. [18:56] Maris is probably more knowledgeable than me on that :) [18:56] heh [18:56] Well... it's hard to cut off someone's head with your bare hands... even if you are an immaculate monk. [18:56] anyhow i'd say that getting into a clinch is a simple dex + brawl/MA attack, right? [18:57] though I'd rather have on water dude or maybe even two hold him with their top level brawl ability and have the rest whomp on him. [18:57] not really, all those charms that make your hands do letahl damage anyhow [18:57] GH: Human monks don't have those charms. [18:57] and a hold is a much better idea [18:57] have one guy hold and then the other whomp on the holded guy [18:58] uhm.. if it's a human monk, why put do you need 5 IO monks? [18:58] can't do damage to the holder in a hold and it's harder to get out of [18:58] regardless, they will all try to get him into a hold. [18:59] just look in the exalt book for the dice rolls. [18:59] Well here's how I handled it. The monks took turns trying to get the guy in a clinch. When one succeded, the rest automatically succeded (As he couldn't dodge and they had a large pool). [18:59] sounds right [18:59] Then each turn they could each apply damage. The holdee could apply damamge to each of them one at a time. [18:59] But if he wanted to break he'd have to break them all without failing. [18:59] nah [18:59] he should be able to shake them off one at a time [18:59] So 5 consecutive Dex-Brawl checks. [19:00] it is a REFLEXIVE roll, is it not? [19:00] I eventually let that happen. [19:00] It is reflexive if you don't apply damage. [19:00] So he'd get the full pool against them all. [19:01] naturally [19:01] Well... I'm pretty okay with what happened. [19:01] It's just that I killed 3 solars that way. [19:01] In one session. [19:01] but I don't see why you'd have to shake them all off at the same time [19:02] 15 monks, 3 solars (Two of whom were unarmored) [19:02] GH: [19:02] well with those numbers the solars should loose anyhow. [19:02] GH: After a few rounds I let them try to shake each off. [19:02] eh [19:02] I think I fudged up though. [19:02] I think you're underestimating 5 damage/ round [19:03] I let 5 of them jump on a armored/armed guy. [19:03] that's 10 unsoakable damage dice [19:03] The solar's should just full dodge. [19:03] it doesn't matter if they are armored or amred or not the damage is always the same. [19:03] getting held by 5 folk would be bad [19:03] Maris: i'm assuming that these IO monks are non-exalt, and thus, extras. [19:03] Yeah. [19:03] if they are extras, they should just kill them [19:03] Maris: That's how I justified it. [19:03] I wouldn't think you could even properly get held by 5 people [19:04] eh [19:04] the book says 5 people can attack you at once [19:04] I'd think the most you could get on a person and do damage is maybe 3 [19:04] well they could lift you up [19:04] they can attack you [19:04] not hold you [19:04] one on each arm, leg, and one on the head [19:04] Or the groin. [19:04] The dreaded groin lock. [19:04] nah [19:04] just kick them in the groin [19:04] they can't dodge, and it's +3 to damage [19:05] ripping a guy in fourths isn't really plausible [19:05] unless you got horses handy [19:05] no, but you could break his arms and legs easily enoug [19:05] Or dislocate. [19:05] that would bring them down to incapacitated, I think [19:05] they could break all the legs but then what? [19:05] TROOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOR! [19:05] wait for them to get gangrene? [19:05] nah, that's incapacitated. [19:05] No. Cut off their heads while they're Incap. [19:06] remember a broken limb is a -2 health level [19:06] That's what the monks did. [19:06] NO! Burninate them all! [19:06] Then they burninated them. [19:06] Well... pyred them. [19:06] Walknuki: if they wre going to cut off their head, then only two or three of them would put him in the grapple [19:06] * Jydan shakes his head. "GH was right! It's the end of the world!" [19:06] still you can only maybe break one or two arms a turn [19:06] the other two would just stick their swords in him before he was incapacitated [19:06] They cut off their heads when they were uncouncious. [19:06] if they all try to do it they'd need to be specially trained or they would screw it up [19:06] Not gonna wait for the anathema to wake back up. [19:07] 3 solars and one lunar bit the dust. The lunar death was just sad. [19:07] Maris: I'm guessing that immaculate monks count as specially trained. [19:07] eh [19:07] I mean they are IMMACULATE monks [19:07] though i'm just being ornery now [19:07] what else do they do with their time? [19:08] Flew down, turned into a wolf (Not man wolf war form... just wolf) and got the shit kicke dout of him by monks with section staffs. [19:08] I guess they could do it [19:08] wack off? [19:08] * GoldenH guesses wacking off takes up significant amount of time for an IO monk [19:08] and have a couple guys hold him while the rest kick the held guy seems entirely possible [19:08] Walknuki: mortals should not be able to use section staffs without severe penalties. [19:08] In fact... they didn't kill a single monk. [19:08] Greviously injured some... but none were killed. [19:09] At least not during the battle., [19:09] it requiress what, Dex 4 MA 4? [19:09] * Maris shakes his head [19:09] Maybe from gangreen or infection later. [19:09] they can't fight then [19:09] that's at least -2... and mortals get 6 dce, so they're down to 4 dice to attack witha section staff. at BEST. [19:09] 5 actually. [19:09] if it was 5, then they're down to 2 dice [19:09] give me an anathema and I could take out all 15 monks without using a charm [19:10] No, they started with 7. [19:10] ah. specialties? [19:10] Yeah. [19:10] hm [19:10] 1 point grapple, one point weapon. [19:10] I dunno... mortals having two dots of specialties? [19:10] * Maris nods [19:10] they can have up to 3 themselves [19:11] So while the anathema got injured and burned themselves out throwing off the monks, 15 more waited with weapons. [19:11] extra's just don't usually [19:11] By the time they got free, they were pretty beaten down. [19:11] hm [19:12] I don't use extra's alot. I like to have a more dangerous feel to my games. I do use them occasionally though. [19:12] * GoldenH is preparing a mass extra battle [19:12] But when you attack a leader of a monastary unprovocated, you don't get extras from me. [19:12] That's just stupid. [19:12] I wouldn't either [19:12] that was stupid [19:12] 40,000 extras in a pitched battle. [19:12] Hell, the one who attacked wasn't even in trouble [19:12] :) [19:12] It was someone unrelated too him. [19:13] look for mass rules on combat gh [19:13] True he was a solar aswell, but the attacker could have just walked away. [19:13] I have my own rules [19:13] no way you can do 40g worth of extras [19:13] The one in trouble though... Oh boy. [19:13] * Maris nods [19:13] * GoldenH is using the savage seas rules on a larger scale [19:13] The guy playing him was playing him like a real care free, I'll just murder everyone, I don't care about anything moron. [19:13] I would think you just make the whole damn thing cinematic [19:13] Seriously. [19:13] savage seas rules are good for up to talons [19:13] and i believe you [19:13] it will be mostly cinematic [19:14] TROOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOR! [19:14] So I had a swamp spirit who hated him and the monks take over his body. He then had him viciously slaughter 4 children who were at the monastary. [19:14] there are a lot of folk who play stupidly [19:14] He woke up to find himself covered in blood, surounded by screeming kids, holding a bloodied diaklave in one hand and the head of a 7 year old girl in the other. [19:14] you at least let him roll to see how many turns it took to get possessed, right? :) [19:14] One turn. [19:15] one turn? nasty spirit. [19:15] I rolled 9, he rolled 2. :\ [19:15] lol [19:15] I FINALLY got my luck back. [19:15] my spirits are gimper than that.... [19:15] the fastest possession was in three turns [19:15] After WEEKS of botches and failed rolls I figured out why my luck was shit. [19:15] girls? [19:15] Luck with dice. [19:15] :p [19:15] oh [19:15] :p [19:16] I wasn't keeping my dice in the dice bag. [19:16] I was letting them just lie around. [19:16] you fool! [19:16] I left them in the bag for a week after I found it. I rolled more 10's last night then I had in the last 6 sessions. [19:16] not keeping your dice in a bag... [19:16] my god [19:16] Well I lost the bag. [19:16] next you'll be keeping them in shoe boxes. [19:16] That's like, a sin. [19:17] And by lost, I mean it was in some other pocket of my bookbag that I missed. [19:17] * GoldenH keeps his super-dice in his old retainer box. that seems to work really good. [19:18] the acid [19:18] it makes the dice less likely to roll botches. [19:18] just plain old mass distribution really [19:19] Hell, I rolled so many 9's and 10's I could have thrown a frail, enfemamin little boy at them and he'd still whoop their butt. [19:20] Well tonights game will be much more political. [19:21] TROOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOR! [19:21] They're returning a small child to her home. But A: She's actually undead. He father had her raised because he would be lonely without her and B: Rival families will try to buy/steal her from them. [19:24] see, I would NEVER do something that evil. [19:24] Muhahaha. [19:24] beautiful plot. I admire your wickedness [19:25] Not only that but a bronze siderial is watching them all the time. He has an artifact that makes him immeterial like a spirit. He pops up when the players are alone, messes with their head, and dissapears again. [19:25] And a abyssal exalt is falling in love with one of the PC's. And that PC is already questioning his morality and the Unconqured Sun. [19:26] you gotta be careful with those [19:26] Oh? [19:26] abyssal exalted falling in love with one of the PC ? hum I wonder what this is reminescent of... [19:26] they can valcanize instantly agaisnt evil if she moves too quickly [19:27] I would reccomend, just as a general guide [19:27] have the PC roll conviction [19:27] TROOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOR! [19:27] Oh he's not questioning his morality and the UC beacuse of her. [19:27] It's his own doubt. [19:27] and have her roll manipulation + say, whatever her best convincing people abilitiy si [19:27] yea [19:28] that's why I say have him roll conviction [19:28] conviction covers all those things [19:28] and she can help him make the decision [19:28] I suppose I could. But he's not being coorced. He's mearly seeing things as they're presented to him. [19:28] but the base conviction sux should say how hard she has to work [19:28] so she isn't going to try to make him join her ever? [19:28] Oh she is. [19:28] But of his own accord. [19:29] She's not going to force him. [19:29] naturally [19:29] hm [19:29] maybe charisma instead then [19:29] but still, she should roll something, just as a guideline of how good to RP her at what she does [19:29] after all, she might botch ;) [19:29] If he decides he's going to become what everyone expects of him. To become the moster those tell him he's destined to become, he'll have someone to go to. [19:30] Well she DOES love him. She's saved him once and returned the little girl to him when she was lost. [19:30] He has no idea what she is (or what she even looks like) right now. [19:30] Just that she wears a black cloak, and sounds like a she. [19:30] yes, but does she have the necessary social skills to make him like her in the first place? [19:31] Maybe. Maybe it'll be true love. [19:31] If I feel it needs to come to dice rolls, I'll do it. [19:31] naturally [19:31] I like messing with the players heads to go where I wants them to more so. >:) [19:31] i'm just suggesting it as a guide. [19:31] eh [19:32] Love is one of those weird and hard things to put into a dice roll. [19:32] I agree [19:32] She could seduce him easily enough. [19:32] And that would take dice. [19:32] what, so have her seduce him, then deny him? [19:34] "No! I'm sorry... I can't have sex with you.. I'm.. a DEATHLORD!" anima explodes in radiant death glory [19:34] "NOOOOOOOOOOO!" tears pour out of his shut eyes like gysers [19:35] it all depends on how sickening you want to make true love [19:35] lol [19:36] You know... 4 months on the road, and only their henchman's gotten lucky. [19:36] And boy did he get lucky. [19:36] Beautiful dragon blooded cynis. [19:36] He was her "prisoner" for a week. [19:37] lol [19:37] The group went to the ends of the world and back to save him. [19:37] Much like castly anthrax, he didn't want to be saved. [19:37] maris here knocked up 60 chicks :) [19:37] * Maris chuckles [19:37] cute story. [19:37] then again, he IS a cynis [19:38] * Maris nods [19:38] * GoldenH probably has too much sex in his campaign [19:39] Uh... My campaign started with a book and sex... [19:39] I had one girl start to flirt with a player. [19:39] His "must survive!" instincts took over and he immediatly went on the defensive. [19:40] lol [19:40] "NPC interacting with me? She MUST be trying to kill me!" [19:40] yea.... [19:40] well they are, you know [19:41] He did agree to meet her for dinner though. But they had to leave town after one of the players was almost decapitaded by the wyld hunt. [19:41] He was lucky enough to get away just missing an eye. [19:41] heh [19:42] So... what penalties would you impose on that? [19:42] * manxcat (manxcat@wv-mltn-ubr-c-024-159-089-167.charterwv.net) has joined #pvpexalted [19:42] yo manx [19:42] +1 diff on melee, +2 on ranged? [19:42] Walknuki: probably just-1 dice [19:42] TROOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOR! [19:43] raising difficulty is like a -3 penalty [19:43] and the eye will grow back [19:43] depends on the eye [19:43] Will it? [19:43] exalts grow back any wound they take [19:43] not really. [19:43] it just takes a while [19:43] Not lost limbs and whatnot. [19:43] yea.. amputation doesn't count. [19:43] it depends if the eye jut got scratched, or if it totally got ripped out [19:44] hmm.. [19:44] Well a huge chunk of jade flew into it, destroying pretty much his entire eye. [19:44] pg 234 the end of it [19:44] well it can grow back from that, walknuki [19:44] Maris: Knockdown rules? [19:44] I wonder, if you break an Exalt's nose, does it grow back perfectly? [19:45] Oh wait. [19:45] I see it. [19:45] no healing complications [19:45] Mangled and gone are two different things. [19:45] eh [19:45] * GoldenH gave jynaru healing complications [19:45] yeha i guess [19:46] But he got away alive, he's not getting his eye back any time soon. [19:46] I mean.. if the bone isn't there.. [19:46] He'll need some magical whatnot for that. [19:47] so wat about the broken nose? [19:47] if rocky was an exalt, would his nose remain flawless? [19:47] In fact, there's a charm that allows the exalt to "Regrow ... amputated limbs, lost eyes..." [19:49] anyhow [19:49] one more hour [19:49] One more hour for me too. [19:49] Then it's EXALTED EXALTED EXALTED!!! [19:49] heh [19:50] so how's Sean doing? [19:50] he STing anymore? [19:50] Alright. [19:50] He's running a Vampire thing right now. [19:50] ah [19:50] L.A. is in ruins. Or atleast a good part of it is. [19:50] same one? [19:50] * TomAway is now known as DarthTom [19:50] yo [19:50] I'm Santiago, the mexican vampire! [19:50] wb darthy [19:50] again [19:51] teh mexican vampire? cha-cha-cha! [19:51] Also comedic releif and soul sucker. [19:51] I see [19:51] Nature Galant, Demeanor Jester. [19:51] Deoblorized one revoliutionary war era vampire. [19:52] Muhahaha! [19:52] :) [19:52] damn exalted compendium forum ! [19:52] I also sent about 70 people to their death... just for fun. [19:52] 70? [19:52] that's all? [19:52] In one swoop. [19:52] could someone post a few Deathlord suggestions in my stead ? I still can't seem to be able to post. [19:52] the name thread? [19:53] yup [19:53] allright send me the link/message [19:53] L.A. is in lockdown, the army shoots those that try to leave. I pumped up a protest crowd to run the line. Convinced them the army wouldn't shoot all of the,. [19:53] 70 took off running. [19:53] heh [19:54] Then I got visited by a splinter cell type guy. Some CIA job who warned me not to do that again. [19:54] whatfor? [19:54] Because sending American citizens to their demise is bad. [19:54] I mean, why the lockdown of LA [19:54] Especially bad plubicity for the millitary. [19:54] Because it's exploding and whatnot. [19:55] And there's wacky WOD shite going on. [19:55] But my character knows what's going on. [19:55] exploding LA? [19:55] * GoldenH confuzzled [19:55] It's those damn werewolves. They know he killed like a dozen of them. That's why it's happening. They're coming for him. [19:56] ah [19:56] figures [19:56] (Note: My character had a hand in killing one, and is deathly paranoid of werewolves.) [19:56] Why not go all Fight Club on them? [19:56] eg, blowing up some skyscrapers [19:56] Never seen Fight Club. [19:57] get rid of the prince, too, if you're lucky :) [19:57] We're the only vampires left in the city. [19:57] ah [19:57] well blow up some skyscrapers good [19:57] and go swimming [19:57] I'm looking to corner a child and consume it's soul. Just to see what it tastes like. [19:57] aw [19:57] I can tell you what it tastes like. [19:57] PAPER! [19:58] Ew. [19:58] I've eaten paper before. [19:58] (I owe you = 1 soul) [19:58] It's not that good. [19:58] reallly? and you think it's ew? [19:58] Yeah. [19:58] you must have ate some low quality paper [19:58] Ate a whole character sheet before. [19:58] bleh [19:58] toner it was, that tasted bad. [19:58] On a dare. [19:58] the actual paper itself is ok [19:59] eating printed paper is like eating a plastic bag [19:59] does plastic bag taste good? hell no. [20:00] you should try it again sometime [20:00] Mmm.... Plastic.... [20:00] dude.. not only does plastic taste bad, it is also solid poison [20:01] Mmmmm... Poi.... [20:02] anyhow.. I guess i'd better be going now. I've got a game to run [20:02] chow! [20:02] * Disconnected [20:03] * Now talking in #pvpexalted [20:04] ;) [20:05] bah.. anti-fun [20:05] * GoldenH smites you all [20:06] * Jydan burninates GH before being smited. [20:06] TROOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOR! [20:06] i've eaten paper too. [20:06] Isn't it tasty? [20:06] Espeically when you put salt on it. [20:07] meh [20:07] the only thing salt is for is vegetables and dried meat [20:07] it's a very neutral taste. Unless there's encrage on it, in which case it's no good. [20:07] * Hikari (Hikari@zaqd378a489.zaq.ne.jp) has joined #pvpexalted [20:07] Good morning. [20:07] ahh hello [20:07] hey Hikari. [20:07] i guess you beat up, and did not get beat up [20:08] * Hikari stayed at home and studied. No lessons yesterday. [20:08] oh right... stupid me [20:08] jydan! the burninating! [20:08] wha? [20:08] The sportshall in Namba is sometimes taken by other sports or tournaments. [20:09] like.. chess? [20:09] Is cool talking taking place, or can I go see out the door? [20:09] it was, but it stopped [20:09] Naah, more like... volleyball. [20:12] GoldenH (2), 1, 9, Successes : 1 [20:12] !ex 2 [20:12] GoldenH (2), 10, 8, Successes : 3 [20:12] !ex 2 [20:12] GoldenH (2), 8, 3, Successes : 1 [20:12] !ex 2 [20:12] GoldenH (2), 2, 5, Successes : 0 [20:12] !ex 2 [20:12] hm. [20:13] GoldenH (), 9, Successes : 1 [20:13] !exom [20:13] GoldenH (1), 9, Successes : 1 [20:13] !exom 1 [20:13]